Herlihy Family Facts

I got all my Ireland information from either the birth registry for years 1864 to 1910 or the O’Kief, Coshe Mang, & Slieve Luachra 16 volumes by Casey on Northwest Cork and East Kerry.

The following is as a short history of Michael and Kate and their children.

Michael Herlihy and Kate Donelly were marry on 8^th August 1854 in Rathmore, Kilcummin, Co. Kerry according to the O’Kief work. A 1991 extract from the marriage register has Cornelius and Mary Donelly as witnesses but with the date of 8th August 1855.

The only Michael, that I found, was baptize on December 13th, 1828 in Mahanamaradagh and his parents were Thomas Herlihy and Catherine Murphy. I have not found any other children for Thomas and Catherine. Reason for this could be one or both of his parents had an early death or he was the last of many children and baptism records before 1824 are very scarce.

Kate came from Coom, Kilcummin, Co. Kerry. I do not know who her parents were, but I believe she had a brother name Daniel. I have a Daniel Donnelly as a witness to one of Michael and Kate children.

The following are the only know children:

Given Name Birth Death Place

Thomas Abt. 1857 Aft. 1917 Ireland

Katherine Mar. 1859 22 Dec. 1896 NY, NY

M. Date Unkn Michael Murphy Abt. 1838 24 Mar 1908 NYC

Michael F. 6 Apr. 1860 2 Oct. 1940 Bronx, NY

M. Date Unkn Julia Goulding 17 Jun 1871 9 Jun 1914 NYC

Bridget 1 Mar. 1864 Bef. 1874 Ireland

Timothy 21 Jan. 1866 Unknown Unknown

Nora 7 Mar. 1868 Unknown Unknown

Patrick 4 Aug. 1870 Unknown Headford, Ire.?

M. 6 Feb 1897 Ellie Goulding 12 Oct 1873 Unknown Ballydesmond, Ire.

Bridget 4 Oct 1873 19 Jul. 1948 Drishane

Mary 18 Mar. 1875 Unknown England

M. Date Unkn (male) Reagan Abt. 1873 Unknown Unknown

Margaret 11 Jan. 1877 Unknown Unknown

M. Date Unkn (male) Quigley Abt. 1875 Unknown Umknown

Thomas Herlihy was alive and living in Kingwilliamstown as late as 1916. That is when his niece, Mary Herlihy, immigrated to New York and she put down on the ship manifest that her last address was with her Uncle Thomas in Kingwilliamstown, Co. Cork.

Katherine Herlihy Murphy died in 1896 while giving birth. Found no record of child. Properly a stillborn. She was marry to Michael Murphy. He was nineteen years older than her. He died on March 24, 1908, in Harlem Hospital, New York, NY, at age 70.

Their children are as follows:

Given Name Birth Death Place

Unknown Bef. Jun. 1889 Unknown

Michael Francis 2 Apr. 1890 Aft. 1920

Thomas Leo Abt. Apr. 1892 4 Apr. 1893 NY, NY

Eugene 27 Aug. 1893 Aft. 1915

Arthur Thomas 23 Feb. 1895 24 Apr. 1895

George 23 Feb. 1895 Unknown

Arthur Thomas and George maybe the one and the same. Michael Francis was living with the Michael Herlihy family on the 1920 census.

Michael Francis Herlihy married Julia Goulding. Michael arrived in New York aboard the SS Arizona on April 19, 1886. Julia arrived in 1888. I believe he married her in New York. I believe they were either married in St. Francis DeSales or Our Lady of Good Council.

Their ten children are as follows:

Given Name Birth Death Place

Michael"Frank",Jr 4 Sep. 1893 19 Jul. 1946 NYC

M. 22 Jun. 1922 Edna Bauss 26 Jun. 1904 Feb. 1976 NY

Kate 30 Jun. 1895 20 Aug. 1896 NYC

Thomas Leo 2 Mar. 1897 31 Aug 1949 NYC

M. No Date Mary Herlihy 6 May 1898 28 Jan 1964 NYC

C.
Helen 13 Sep. 1921 Living in Cold Spring, NY

C.
Patrick 13 Sep. 1921 6 Oct. 1921 NYC

M. 12 Jul 1922 Anna Stanek 18 Sep. 1897 3 Jun. 1977 Pittsburgh, PA

C.
Thomas 6 May 1923 Living in Southington, CT

C.
William 5 Sep. 1928 Living in Pittsburgh, PA

Mary 2 Oct. 1899 9 Sep. 1900 NYC

Timothy 27 Dec. 1901 22 May 1907 NYC

Irene A. 2 Aug. 1904 16 Mar. 1974 Queens

M. 18 Jun. 1932 Julius E.Kandl 22 Mar 1904 Aug. 1982 NYC

C.
Irene 9 Apr.1933

C.
Louise 23 Feb.1935

C.
Edwina 14 Aug. 1936

C.
Barbara 9 Nov. 1938

Cornelius 17 Feb. 1906 Sep. 1986 Sparkill, NY

M. Date Unkn Catherine Oates 22 Sep. 1909 Nov. 1991 NYS

C.
Roger 27 Nov. 1932

C.
Robert 19 Feb 1935 17 Oct. 1994 Westchester Co.

C.
Russell 25 Aug. 1937 24 Feb. 1998 Westchester Co.

Julia 6 Dec. 1908 21 Jan. 1914 NYC

Anna 7 Nov. 1910 5 Jul. 1915 NYC

William 7 Nov. 1912 1 Jun. 1939 Wassaic, NY

According to recent revelation this household was not a very happy one. I have now learn that Michael son’s, William, disability was cause by Michael anger over a pile of clothes on a bed. In a rage he picked up the clothes and threw them against the wall. William was among the clothes and his head got bang against the wall. It was a few months after this incident that Julia died from a botch abortion on 9 June 1914. In 1916, Michael brought his niece, Mary Herlihy, daughter of his brother Patrick and Ellen Goulding Herlihy, to New York, because he needed cheap help to raise his children. But more trouble was brought to this disturb home with the birth of twins, Helen and Patrick, to Mary on September 13th, 1921. (baby Patrick died within a month of his birth.) Mary could not marry the father of the children. The father was Michael son, Thomas, and they were double first cousins. Not only was Michael and Patrick both brothers but Julia and Ellie were also sisters. Because of this embarrassing situation, Helen, the surviving infant, was an outcast as she grew up and never had contact with her father. The following year, three weeks after his older brother Michael "Frank" married Edna Mae Bauss, Thomas married Anna Stanek on July 12th, 1922. Frank, Thomas, Cornelius and Irene (Kandl) are in Mary Golding's 1938 will. Michael died on 2 October 1940 at the age of 80 while living with his niece’s family, Michael and Anne Barry. In ’49, Frank died at Grand Central Station from a heart attack. He was on his way home from work.

It wasn’t until June of ’95, that I found out what happen to Thomas and Anna. I check the New York City death index for all HERLIHYs. I took a chance and ordered a copy of a death certificate. It turn out to be the right one. The death certificate had him buried in Calvary. From the information, I obtained from Calvary, I was able to find his wife, Anna, in the Social Security Death Index (SSDI). The SSDI had her receiving her last benefits in Pittsburgh and her burial benefit going to Brooklyn, NY. There was only one Herlihy listed in the Pittsburgh phone book and it turn out to be their son, William. He was very friendly but lack any information or pictures on the Herlihy family. He even claimed he didn’t know where his older brother, Thomas Michael Anthony, was living. Thomas bought his Brooklyn home in 1953 and sold in 1989. The year he surrendered his driving license. His wife, Josephine died in 1990. I gather there was something that broke up the family or Bill is extremely careful about sharing family information.

But thanks to my web site, a descendant of Irene contacted me in February of ’98 with some information on the Herlihy line. I now know that Frank and Edna had no children. Thomas and Anna only had the two boys. That Cornelius married a Catherine Oates and had three sons, Roger, Robert and Russell. I still have not found Cornelius birth certificate. I calculated his birth from census data.

Bridget Herlihy is completely unknown except for her birth. Properly died young because the name Bridget was given to an later child.

Timothy Herlihy is completely unknown except for his birth. There was a Timothy Herlihy living with John and Hanna Goulding Murphy on the 1920 census.

Nora Herlihy is completely unknown except for her baptism.

Patrick Herlihy married Ellie Goulding on February 6th, 1897 in Glountanebeg, Cullen, Millstreet, Co. Cork. Witnesses to the marriage were Cornelius Goulding and Denis Lane. He listed his occupation as carpenter on the birth registrar of his children.

Their five children are as follows:

Given Name Birth Death Place

Catherine 10 Feb 1897 Bef 1936 Drishane

Mary 6 May 1898 28 Jan 1964 NYC

M. No Date Thomas Herlihy 12 Mar 1897 31 Aug 1949 NYC

c. Helen Mary 13 Sep 1921

c. Patrick 13 Sep 1921 6 Oct 1921 NYC

M. 24 Sep 1925 Samuel McCloud 25 Sep 1871 27 Feb 1931 NYC

c.
Samuel William 5 Sep 1926 7 May 1984 New Jersey

M. 26 Jul 1943 Vincent Nolan 25 Mar 1889 20 Feb 1959 NYC

c.
Patricia 28 Mar 1938

Michael 11 Sep 1900 Bet 1931/6 NYC Area

John 24 Jun 1902 Unknown Ireland

Thomas P. 26 Oct 1905 12 Oct 1986 Ballydesmond

M. 6 Jun 1940 Mary Daly 10 Jun 1915

c. Eileen 4 Apr 1941

c. Patrick 27 Jul 1943

Four days after their marriage, their first child, Catherine, was baptize on the 10th of February, 1897 in Glountanebeg, Cullen, Co. Cork. Mary, my grandmother, was the second born on May 6th, 1898 in the Boherboy district, Williamstown, Nohavaldaly, Co. Cork. She always lied about her age. She always claimed she was born in 1900. I have a copy of her birth certificate. I have copies of the register pages that contains Michael’s birth on September 11th, 1900 and John’s birth on June 24th, 1902. Thomas Patrick, is born on October 26th, 1905, but I and the present registrar can’t find him in the birth index. I do not know what happen to Catherine. She is not in Mary Goulding will, therefore she must have died before 1936. She suppose to have died in Drishane, Ireland. On November 5, 1916, Mary came to New York aboard the SS. St. Louis. John, according to family legend, died in the Rebellion. The SS. Muen Chen manifest, has Michael arriving in New York on April 7, 1929 and staying with an Aunt O’Connors at 171 Chatham St., New Haven, Connecticut. The 1920 census has a Timothy and Hannah O’Connor living there. He is 38, she is 41. They have four children, Dennis age 6, Timothy age 5, Martin age 3 8/12 and Helen age 1 6/12. They both immigrated in 1908. The manifest also states his father, Patrick, is in Headford, Co. Kerry. Connors is a surname I have seen several times on Herlihy documents and according to Mary Daly Herlihy, her father-in-law died in Headford. So, I am almost positive that I found the correct Michael Herlihy manifest. But I have a problem with Mrs. O’Connors first name of Hannah on the 1920 census. I know of no Hannah/Johanna born in 1879 or any other year to Michael and Kate, and I know what happen to Hannah Goulding. My mother remembers seeing Michael when she was young. He was mad at someone. Months later, police informed them that he was murder. I do not know where or when this took place. I didn’t find his death certificate in the New York five boros. He could have been kill anywhere in the metropolitan area. But, the biggest events that I am missing are the where and when for Patrick and Ellie deaths!

Bridget Herlihy is completely unknown except for her birth. According to Mary Daly Herlihy, she died on the 19th of July, 1948.

Mary Herlihy Regan was completely unknown except for her baptism until Michael Regan informed me that she was her grandmother. I hope to get more details on her life in England.

Margaret Herlihy Quigley was completely unknown except for her baptism until Michael Regan supplied me with some information. She was still living home on the 1901 census. She apparently follow Mary to England and met a Quigley. She had at least one child name Anne. She in turned married Michael Barry. It is not sure if Mr. Barry was English or American. They in turned also had at least one daughter name Shelia and she married Ray Markey. Four children are known of this union and they are Eileen, Brian, Ray and Mary Alice.


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